| [Index] |
| John Thomas LINDSAY (1839 - 1926) |
| Children | Self + Spouses | Parents | Grandparents | Greatgrandparents |
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Caroline Phoebe LINDSAY (1879 - ) William Benjamin LINDSAY (1880 - ) Frederick Samuel LINDSAY (1882 - 1917) Elfreda Grace LINDSAY (1884 - ) Ada Marion LINDSAY (1886 - ) John Alexander LINDSAY (1888 - ) Phoebe Helen LINDSAY (1890 - ) Frances Emily LINDSAY (1892 - ) Annie Catherine Margaret Olive LINDSAY (1897 - ) |
John Thomas LINDSAY (1839 - 1926) + Phoebe Sophia SCHOFIELD (1858 - 1947) |
John Thomas LINDSAY | ||
| Betsey REUBEN ( - 1844) | ||||
| b. 10 Apr 1839 at Oakham, Rutlandshire, England |
| m. 27 Feb 1878 Phoebe Sophia SCHOFIELD (1858 - 1947) at Roma, Queensland, Australia |
| d. 20 Feb 1926 at Yuleba, Queensland, Australia aged 86 |
| Parents: |
| John Thomas LINDSAY |
| Betsey REUBEN ( - 1844) |
| Grandchildren (4): |
| William Clyde LINDSAY (1911 - ), Kevon James LINDSAY (1912 - ), Laura Kathleen LINDSAY (1915 - ), Fredesia Mary (Tiny) LINDSAY (1916 - ) |
| Events in John Thomas LINDSAY (1839 - 1926)'s life | |||||
| Date | Age | Event | Place | Notes | Src |
| 10 Apr 1839 | John Thomas LINDSAY was born | Oakham, Rutlandshire, England | Note 1 | 18 | |
| abt 1844 | 5 | Death of mother Betsey REUBEN | |||
| 27 Feb 1878 | 38 | Married Phoebe Sophia SCHOFIELD (aged 20) | Roma, Queensland, Australia | 18 | |
| 1879 | 40 | Birth of daughter Caroline Phoebe LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1879/C12 | |
| 18 Jul 1880 | 41 | Birth of son William Benjamin LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 18 | |
| 1882 | 43 | Birth of son Frederick Samuel LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1882/C58 | 18 |
| 1884 | 45 | Birth of daughter Elfreda Grace LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1884/C5018 | 18 |
| 1886 | 47 | Birth of daughter Ada Marion LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1886/C2483 | 18 |
| 1888 | 49 | Birth of son John Alexander LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1888/C6991 | 18 |
| 1890 | 51 | Birth of daughter Phoebe Helen LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1890/C8517 | 18 |
| 1892 | 53 | Birth of daughter Frances Emily LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1892/C8251 | 18 |
| 1897 | 58 | Birth of daughter Annie Catherine Margaret Olive LINDSAY | Queensland, Australia | 1897/C7401 | 18 |
| 11 Mar 1917 | 77 | Death of son Frederick Samuel LINDSAY (aged 35) | France | 18 | |
| 20 Feb 1926 | 86 | John Thomas LINDSAY died | Yuleba, Queensland, Australia | 1929/C755 | 18 |
| Note 1: FreeBMD Kidderminster Jun 1839 18 381 |
| Personal Notes: |
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JOHN THOMAS LINDSAY and WILLIAM AND THOMAS MARSH
John Thomas Lindsay who was born in Oakham, Rutlandshire, United Kingdom, on 10 April, 1839 first appears in the Queensland Electoral Roll in the electorate of Surat/Balonne in 1879, he also appears on the Roll in 1880, 1881, 1882, and 1883. His parents were John Thomas Lindsay, a builder, and Betsy Reuben. His mother died when he was five so he and his father and father brothers went into in the workhouse in Manchester.************** His residence (given as Perwell Station on the Maranoa River between Mitchell & St. George) was originally owned by William and Thomas Marsh, half brothers of his wife. They had previously owned Bidicarraba in the Goondiwindi area but in 1866 took up lots 4 & 5 of Drysdale Ponds which they named Perwell after William’s father-in-law’s property in Gloucestershire England. William had married Mary Alcock at Moogoon Station on 28 July, 1864 and their first child Martha was born at Bidicarraba on 23 June 1866. It is almost certain that William’s mother, Caroline Schofield, would have acted as midwife at the birth as there were neither doctors nor hospitals within hundreds of miles. The Marsh Brothers began their hazardous journey to Perwell travelling via bullock dray. In “Links with the Past” by Donald Gunn, 1937, we read this graphic description of their journey handed down by descendents of the Marsh family. “They travelled by bullock dray to Perwell, on the Maranoa, and went by Surat. They were guided by a blackfellow called Lazy Jimmie, and as this was the first dray through these parts, it was a serious undertaking with the assistance of only aborigines, The track had to be cut through patches of thick scrub, and trees marked so that the same route could be used by the stock which were to follow. The party consisted of the two brothers William and Tom. William drove the dray with his wife and baby. A good supply of rations, cooking utensils, and tools had to be taken. No doubt Mrs. Mary Marsh must have had an anxious and uncomfortable time, sitting on top of a loaded bullock dray. Thomas Marsh followed with the stock, sheep, horses and cattle and must have had all his time occupied. Neither William nor Thomas would have got through were it not for the assistance of the blacks. The Marshes understood the blacks and never had any trouble with them. Later the gins (female aborigines) helped with the housework and the men looked after the stock. When the sheep were shorn, the wool was loaded onto two wheel bullock drays and started for Ipswich, then called Limestone. It went by the track they had cut to Surat, and crossed the range near Toowoomba, using the Tollbar road. The drays, after delivering their loads would load up for the return journey with supplies sufficient for twelve months and one had to be very careful to order all that was required as if any item was omitted, it would have to be done without until the next year.” Soon after the Marsh brothers settled at Perwell they were joined by their mother Mrs. Caroline Schofield whose second husband Robert Schofield had died of a heart attack in 1862 at Callandoon Station at Goondiwindi where he was employed as a shepherd. She was accompanied by her two sons and three daughters including the youngest, Phoebe. Caroline & Phoebe were with the Marsh Brothers on Perwell Station when Harry Redford and the Marsden brothers passed through on their drive to Adelaide. (Phoebe’s grandson Digger Lindsay, who lived with her in Yuleba town for his schooling years, remembers her often reminiscing about this incident.) On 16 January 1875 Harry Redford, the notorious bushranger Captain Starlight, was charged at St. George with releasing William Marsh’s horse from the pound there, selling it and keeping the proceeds. William Marsh had bought the same horse from Redford two years before, from a mob that he was taking to be sold. When the horse strayed from its new owner it was impounded. Redford released it, and sold it again, saying it had only the Colless brand on it and he was entitled to act as he did: he was committed to trial at Roma at the next sittings. This was just a few years after he had been tried in Roma on a charge of stealing cattle from Bowen Downs, and taking them down the Strzelecki Track to Adelaide: in that instance the jury had found him not guilty” William Marsh bought Hillsborough on the opposite side of the Maranoa River in 1870. This grazing property has been in continuous occupation by his descendants ever since. He stocked the property with sheep and cattle but sheep were much more intensive, requiring shepherds, protection from dingoes, and having to be shorn by hand. Old station records show7,000 sheep at this time. The sheep were sold in 1882 and the money used to fence the property for cattle. More horses were needed for cattle work and the best stock horses were bought The men worked hard but it was difficult coming to terms with droughts, bushfire, snakes & the ubiquitous flies and, after rain or floods, those pesky & irritating sandflies. Hillsborough had the best house in the area, it was quaintly picturesque and surpassed any other station homestead in the west of Queensland. at that time, being “a credit to the carpenter who built it. The frame is very strong and the walls are made of horizontal pine saplings with bark on, nicely adzed at each end, and fitted into grooved posts.” The original roof was of bark held down by log ties but by the year 1937 it was covered with iron. The families had much fun visiting the properties on opposite banks of the Maranoa, using a row boat to get across the river. Thomas Marsh took up an adjoining block and became owner of the Surprise holding.and his descendants still held portion of this old leasehold until about 2008 when Don Kellock was running a B & B on part of that property known as Begonia Station. Don had a very interesting museum stocked with much Marsh family memorabilia. This was accidently sold off with the sale of the Surprise property and is now scattered around the district. John Thomas Lindsay married Phoebe Sophia Schofield on 27 February 1878 at Roma. They lived on Perwell, then Rookwood for some years. Many of their children were born at Nogilla Station, St. George. From there they purchased Muggleton, near Yuleba where he ran a grazing property for some years. From 1900 – 1903 there was a dreadful drought and most properties lost most of their cattle. Around about the turn of the century in Western Queensland, cattle ticks made their appearance, and the ground began to be covered with prickly pear which was to become a great scourge until it was eliminated by the cactoblastis insect around about 1930. He then moved to Yuleba town where he lived until his death in 1926. His grandson, Jim Lindsay who lived across the road from him in Yuleba, remembers walking out the door of his home one day on his way to school & being greeted by John Lindsay¨ who commented “ Aren’t you going to say goodbye to me? You may never see me again”. And that is what happened. His Obituary in the Western Star stated: DEATH 1926 LINDSAY - On the 26th February, at the General Hospital, Roma, John Lindsay of Yeulba, in his 87th year. The death occurred at the Roma Hospital on Saturday morning last of John Thomas Lindsay, a well-known resident who came to this district half a century ago. Born in Scotland (incorrect) in 1839 , Mr. Lindsay came to Australia as a boy, and spent his first few years in Australia in Toowoomba and on the Downs. From thence he went to the Dawson country, and then to the Maranoa, arriving in this district about 50 years ago. Despite his advanced age, he was still working and in good health up to a few days prior to his death, when a stroke made it necessary to remove him to the hospital. He leaves a widow and two sons, William and John, and five daughters, Mrs. Brown (Toowoomba), Mrs. S. Butler, Mrs Richard Butler, and Mrs. E.N.Simpson (Surat) and Mrs.N.E Devine (Goondiwindi district). Another son, Fred, was killed in the Great War. This work in progress was written by Barbara Lindsay Baker |
| Source References: |
| 18. Type: E-mail Message, Abbr: e-mails general pool, Title: e-mails general pool |
| - Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 (Marriage) |
| - Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 & Barbara Baker 25 Aug 2014 (Name, Notes) |
| - Notes: I notice that you do not have information on the birth of my gr. grandmother Phoebe Schofield so I am attaching this story that I have written.
Regarding John Thomas Lindsay, Phoebe's husband, I have sent you a story that is a work in progress that I am writing on him. He was born in Manchester around 1839, although there is some doubt about the year. He was certainly much older than 76 years that you have him as. He came to the Downs as a boy. My grandfather Bill Lindsay had a funeral card of William Lindsay from (I think from memory) Toowoomba and I was always puzzled by this. However, he turned out to be John T's brother. It took me a long time to come to terms with the fact that his mother died when he was young and he and his father & siblings were living in the workhouse in Manchester for some years prior to emigrating to Aust. A distant relative that I contacted had done this research but the dates did not add up, nothing was proven. However, I believe that he added "Thomas" to his name after his arrival in Oz. and I believe now that this is the only John Lindsay who could be ours. Much research has been done on this and I think this is the only possible explanation. I note also that you give Caroline's parents as George and Ann. Whilst I believe that this is possible (and I know that Trevor Price favours this theory) we have no way of proving this. I don't believe that her parents were Caroline Paulina & Thomas as she states. I think she may not have known her parents, or at least their names. It is also a great puzzle to me that she was born at Horsley in Gloucestershire (a very pretty village, I have been there) yet worked and lived in Hursley which is some 300 miles from Horsley.Marjorie Byrnes engaged a researcher many years ago but she could not find out anything at all about Caroline. However, there is so much information around now that it may be possible to discover the truth if anyone was interested in following it up. Personally, I think it would be a wild goose chase as there is nothing to go on, Caroline did not tell the truth! |
| - Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 (Death) |
| - Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 & Barbara Baker 24 Aug 2014 (Birth) |
| - Notes: I have proof that he was 87 years of age at death. |